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Robert consequently gave up formal tuition and began teaching himself to play by ear, listening to his older brother's record collection.

Smith said that "the group" eventually became Malice, "sort of a sub-metal punk group -with Michael Dempsey, Laurence and two other blokes." According to the band's Ten Imaginary Years biography, between January and December 1976, the shifting line-up for Malice featured several "other blokes", with founding guitarist Marc Ceccagno being replaced by , an early drummer known only as "Graham" replaced by Lol Tolhurst, and "Graham's brother" replaced by vocalist Martin Creasy. Role in the Cure[] As singer and front-man[] Smith did not intend to become the lead vocalist of the group.

Bowler and Dray note that the Obelisk had "featured Dempsey and Ceccagno as guitarists and him [Robert] on piano as very much a background player." As "the group" gradually became Malice and began regular rehearsals in January 1976, Smith was still one of several floating members.

Smith has claimed that he was expelled from St Wilfrid's as an "undesirable influence" after their band 's second live performance shortly before Christmas 1976, which took place at the school and allegedly caused a riot.

I got taken back [in 1977] but they never acknowledged that I was there ...

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During the latter part of 1972, the nucleus of Smith, Ceccagno, Dempsey and Tolhurst had gone on to secondary school together at St Wilfrid's Comprehensive, where they and their friends continued playing music together.

Smith said that they were known simply as "the group" "because it was the only one at school so we didn't need a name." Dempsey, who eventually moved from guitar to bassist for "the group", said that another name they toyed with was the Brat's Club – a reference to 's .

" One rock biographer (Jeff Apter) maintains that the guitar Smith received for Christmas of 1972 was from his parents, and equates this item with Smith's notorious Woolworth's ' Top 20' guitar, later used on many of the Cure's earliest recordings.

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